thank you both for joining us. mark, it's almost two months since that horrific shooting at sandy hook elementary school. and it seems as though we started the conversation by considering every gun safety initiative from assault weapons bans to restricting gun capacity -- the capacity of gun magazines, yet now the nra says even background checks are worthless, so is that it? is that the end of the discussion? >> well, i don't think the nra marks the end of the discussion. i think it marks the beginning of the discussion. you know, you have this unusual period of time where the public is really focused on this, including the president, 850 mayors and police officers which you saw today in minneapolis, and there is majority support, even among gun owners for most if not all of those propositions. i think we're going to have a serious debate in the congress whether the nra likes it or not. >> we reported on the tragic story of ha diya pendleton who performed at the inauguration. she was a hard working young student bu